Exit Strategy

exitstrategy“An exit strategy is a means of leaving one’s current situation, either after a predetermined objective has been achieved, or as a strategy to mitigate failure.” Wikipedia

This makes sense.

Do you have an Exit Strategy? Do you think it would be a good idea to at least think about what you are going to do if things don’t work out quite how you want them to? If your house burns down, do you have a place to stay? If your city suffers from some sort of disaster or crisis, do you have somewhere to go?

How about if your country descends into tyranny? Chaos? Fascism? Dictatorship? Have you thought about what will happen to your family and yourself if something like that happens?

Do you have an Exit Strategy? Do you have a plan? Do you have an idea other than cowering in your house or some bunker?

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53 Responses to Exit Strategy

  1. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I do a have a general exit strategy in mind, but I am still not ready to make the plunge, the reasons being:

    1) Plenty of countries (Ireland, Australia, Canada (Alberta to be more specific), New Zealand, etc.) that seemed to be at least OK options (to me) when this website was started in 2013, have done so many stupid things in the meantime that now in 2018 I have no desire to even visit them as a tourist, much less move there, and I don’t want to move somewhere, only to have it become the same or worse than Croatia in 5 or 10 years time, I mean if I have to live in a “swamp”, I would rather live in a “swamp” I know how to navigate, than waste time, money, etc. on moving to a different “swamp” and learning how to navigate it.

    2) The few remaning good (or at least OK) options in Europe all have the hammer (and sickle) of the EU hanging over them, so until it becomes blatantly clear that they won’t let the Bruxelles loons ruin their countries, I am not really prepared to commit to moving there, because (as I wrote above) if it is Europe’s destiny to turn into a “swamp”, then I might as well stay in the “swamp” I am living in now.

    3) Of the few remaning remotely interesting countries outside of Europe, I am not prepared to move to any of them without learning the local language to at least the lower-intermediate level, I have decided that every country where English is the main language of communication should be avoided, because when countries such as USA and UK literally start falling apart, it’s obvious that is where the “liberal” loons will start escaping to en masse, since they for the most part don’t speak any other language (and even in countries like Sweden English is the only foreign language (I don’t count mutually intelligible languages as foreign) the vast majority of local liberals know how to speak), and like the “liberal” loons escaping California ruined the major cities in Texas, Colorado, etc., they will do the same thing to those countries that they end up escaping to.

    • alex says:

      Yeah. I can see how the devil you know can be very appealing. I sometimes find myself wishing that I had gone to Mexico simply because I understand the place and the people so much better, and I am a few hours from friends, family, and business issues. But the fact that the Republic of Georgia has turned out to be less fantastic than I thought doesn’t mean I want to go back to the USSA, or that I am willing to abandon what I have done here. I think I am just going to have to mix some rather large doses of patience and reality. There is no perfect place. And in fact I have recently discovered some very clever ways of setting up businesses here so as to take advantage of the tax treatment.

  2. Croatian Capitalist says:

    1) Regardless of how Georgia is or will become, I am sure that you made the right decision in leaving the USA, as much as I hate the commies here, they do what they do because they are crooks, not because they are ideologically driven to destroy Western Civilization like the “liberals” in America are.

    2) Perfection is a subjective thing, for example I often hear people here call beetroot the perfect food, but I literally can’t eat it, so it obviously isn’t the perfect food for me, the same thing applies to countries, somebody might consider the perfect country some country (maybe Mongolia?) that lets him live in the countryside without the government bothering him, somebody else couldn’t care less about living in the countryside (regardless of government interference or lack of thereof), so that means nothing to him.

  3. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Something crossed my mind today when thinking about the issue of predicting the future of countries, namely that if we were having these discussions of which places are the best to move to and have the brightest future lets say 50 years ago, I would have probably said California, Sweden, Spain, Canada, Australia and South Africa, while now in our actual reality those very same places top my list of places not to go to! A 100 years ago I would have probably said Argentina is the country to be in and the country with the brightest long-term future, while in reality the Argentinians turned to socialism in the 1940’s and Argentina has been a joke ever since, etc., so the point I am trying to make is that if history is anything to go by, the countries which now appear to have the brightest futures ahead of them probably for the most part won’t be the countries which will actually end up having the brightest futures, for example which two countries have made the most progress over the last 50 years? In my opinion South Korea and Singapore, and who outside those two countries actually thought that would be the case? Next to no-one probably, but regardless of that they managed to go from being third World countries to being first World countries in a single generation.

    • fafc says:

      Maybe the secret is to go somewhere no one is talking about?

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Modern history would indicate that is so, places that are touted by the leftist media tend to attract the wrong kind of people, so if the Guardian, the Huffington Post or similar publication is singing the praises of some place, it is probably a good idea to avoid it.

        If I had to bet on it, I would put my money on Poland.

        In any case, I hope that whatever country does end up being the new “America”, that it will not repeat the mistakes of this one, it is depressing when you think about how America’s universities, the judiciary, media outlets, etc. were all infiltrated and taken over by haters of Western Civilization with next to no opposition, and how even the legal immigration system let millions upon millions of such people into the USA, the new “America” will need extreme immigration vetting, otherwise it will eventually just end up like this one.

        • fafc says:

          America is just 20 years behind Europe. Unless Americans start doing something to fix the problem. Most people who even see that there is a problem think that all they have to do is vote for Trump and then ignore everything. Even if Trump was Superman, he couldn’t solve it without the constant attention and effort of the American people. And that is just not going to happen. The Left has succeeded in turning several generations into utter imbeciles.

  4. Croatian Capitalist says:

    That is the sad truth, I met many members of your future elite, because unfortunately for some reason Ivy League students choose to hold a regatta near the place I vacation in, and calling them utter imbeciles would still be too mild, and I can’t imagine the young common Americans being much better

    • fafc says:

      I think you only have to look to Canada to see where the USA is going. 10 years ago Canada was actually ahead of the USA on so many fronts having essentially just missed the 2008 financial crisis. So the Canadians decided to self-destruct and elect this idiot who is destroying Canada from within. And the Canadians think it is ok.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Canada’s downfall actually started when it elected his father Pierre in 1968, this idiot is just finishing what his father started. In some ways, Canada’s situation is more tragic, until Pierre Trudeau became prime minister in 1968, Canada was an almost totally ethnically European and Christian country (unlike the USA which inherited a large African slave population from the British), and had no third World neighbors (unlike the the USA which borders Mexico and the poor Caribbean countries), plus to see what the end result of “multiculturalism” is they only had to look across the border at Detroit (which went from being the Paris of North America to being the Kinshasa of North America), and Canada is one of only a dozen or so countries in the World which could be completely self-sufficient in all important areas (water, food, oil, etc.) if it choose to do so, so it couldn’t be pressured from the outside (if they had actual statesmen running the country, instead of these losers), thus it could have avoided all of it’s current problems easily, instead it choose national-suicide, it’s mind-boggling really.

  5. Croatian Capitalist says:

    To get back to the USA, to you think that eventually at least some parts of the country will somehow manage to become independent and at least somewhat resemble the old USA?

  6. Croatian Capitalist says:

    While I still haven’t definitely decided to leave Croatia, I have decided that if I do emigrate, that it will be to one of the V4 countries (probably not Hungary, the language issue alone it enough for it to be at the bottom of the list), they are generally heading in the right direction and they are close, so if I want to return to Croatia, whether to visit someone, as a tourist, for business, or to return to live here, it is a a between 3 and 10 hour drive by car from where I live now to any of the places that interest me there

    • fafc says:

      Travel is a real consideration. I have to return back to the USA about every month to 2 months, and it is painful. I am hating the trip more and more each time. And it is costly. I am spending more money on trips I do not want to make than anything else in my life. I am considering spending more time in Mexico for that reason alone. No place is perfect, but Mexico has some very nice places, I speak enough Spanish to get by, and travel back to the USA is 2 to 3 hours by airplane. At this point the problem is that I have invested so much money into Georgia, and I do love my farm if nothing else.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Yes, imagine selling everything off and moving to let’s say New Zealand, and then finding it even worse there, it would be a nightmare moving back, and even if somebody only decided to go back to visit family and friends or whatever, they would have to spend over 60 hours on planes and airports each time they went there and back, plus thousands of USD on each trip, so again it would be a nightmare, so that alone gives the V4 a giant advantage over other possible candidate countries in my case, but even ignoring that, I still don’t see any better options.

        There are still nice places left in Mexico (Yucatan is probably the best part of the country), but a lot of the places that were nice a few years back are no longer nice thanks to the narco-cartels, so I would stay in Georgia, at least it is in no danger of turning into a narco-state.

        • fafc says:

          In the Yucatan there is Merida which is very nice, however, the best parts of Mexico are the places where few foreigners go: Zacatecas, Guanajuato, San Miguel de Allende, Puebla, Txacallan, Cuenavaca, etc. (forgive possible spelling errors). Mexico City has improved dramatically over the last 10 to 20 years, but it is still a bit of a mess and probably to be avoided, but the high sierras in the central region are lovely. There is also a very nice place in Vera Cruz state called Xalapa. It is the capital Vera Cruz state, but is nothing like the steaming dirty port city of Vera Cruz on the coast. Xalapa is up in the mountains where the weather is always pleasant, but it is a short drive to some very lovely beaches that have not been over developed by greedy developers. It has all the advantages of a modern city with also the charm of an old colonial capital.

  7. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I was basing my “best place in Mexico” on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_states_by_homicides#Time_series

  8. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I have decided to make the Czech Republic my “Plan A” for potential emigration from Croatia, it is the economically freest of the V4 countries, it has the best gun laws (not only in the V4, but probably in the whole of Europe), the best self defence laws (again not only in the V4, but probably in the whole of Europe), it is the richest of the V4 countries (actually it is the richest of all of the post-communist countries), Prague is probably the most beautiful city in Europe, the economy is growing nicely and the Czech Republic doesn’t have the pollution problems (at least not in Prague, some other Czech cities (Ostrava for example) do have pollution problems, but those cities don’t interest me) that Poland has (Hungary wasn’t ever that realistic of an option based on the language issue alone, the Slovaks remind me too much of the people here and even ignoring that Slovakia has next to no advantages over the Czech Republic and Poland), etc.

    Now, as for back-up plans in the event that the V4 decides to follow Western Europe into oblivion, there is no “Plan B”, “Plan C” or “Plan D” yet, but the main candidates for those plans are currently Aguascalientes (Mexico), Dubai (the United Arab Emirates) and Singapore.

    • fafc says:

      I am in Budapest right now, still my favorite place to visit and hang out in Europe, but after 3 days in Prague I really liked it. I think the reason why I prefer Budapest has very little to do with practical issues and more due to comfort and feel. Hard to describe really. But everything you said about Prague is true. All I can say is that maybe it is time to take a leap of faith and just move there. Worse case scenario is that whatever you try to do, whether it involves a business, a job, or a street entertainer, it will fail. Then you try again there or elsewhere. Failure is not the worst thing in the world. It is often the best teacher.

  9. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I believe that I know what you mean.

    I think that I will eventually take the leap of faith, because this country is disgusting me more and more with each new day, but some things would need to be done first, namely learning Czech to at least an intermediate level (which shouldn’t take me more than a few months, since Czech is a Slavic language), figuring out what to do with my real estate here (whether to sell it or rent it out, either of which who knows how long it would take), etc., so even if today I made a definitive decision to leave, I doubt that I would manage to sort out everything that needs to be sorted out before next year, therefore I think I that this year I will limit my stay in Prague to scouting the city in September (probably) and then if I like what I see, then probably make the move sometime next year.

    • fafc says:

      I am 53 years old. If you wait until everything is perfect you will be older than me. You are clearly wise and smart. Now you need to decide if you are going to add bravery to it. Not foolish bravery, but well considered. Don’t burn your bridges, but don’t sit in misery either.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Don’t worry, if I decide to leave (which looks increasingly certain), I won’t wait that long. 😀 My “problem” is not a lack of bravery (if it was a matter of bravery, I would be writing this from a plain bound for Prague) my “problem” is that I have certain responsibilities here which are unlikely to be resolved before next year, and I am one of those people who keep their word. If I like what I see in September, I will start planning the move, now whether the move itself will happen this year or the next is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, what is important is for me to find a place where I can run my business (or do my job in someone else’s company) in peace and not be surrounded by brain-dead socialists who live in an alternate reality.

  10. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Plane, not plain obviously in the post above.

  11. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Anyway, just so that anyone reading this wouldn’t think I was putting too much emphasis on the air quality situation in Poland, this is a story from last year from the city (Wroclaw) I would have moved to had I chosen Poland: http://wroclawuncut.com/2017/01/09/smog-alert-city-advise-wroclawians-stay-indoors/

    “The level of PM. 2.5 in the atmosphere is six times higher than what is considered normal. The amount of PM 10 detected is also high. Earlier this morning air quality readings showed that Wroclaw’s air was 4 times as polluted as the air in Beijing.”

    And Wroclaw isn’t even the worst major city in Poland in this regard, and even though the situation is slowly improving as Poland gets richer, it will be decades before the air pollution problem is fixed, so that was enough to tip the scales in favor of the Czech Republic.

    • fafc says:

      I don’t know. Krakow was very clean and nice. So much depends upon what you want to do. Maybe become a farmer in some remote location? Who knows. I would prefer a healthy society over other issues. They will get fixed. The sick culture will not be fixed.

  12. Croatian Capitalist says:

    That is because you visited during summer, if you had visited it during winter (when the massive burning of dirty coal and other heave pollutants for domestic heating starts), it would have been a different story.

    I would like to live in a big city (but not a giant one like Mexico City or Tokyo) or at least in a suburb of one, as for farming in a remote location, i don’t see any advantage Poland offers over the Czech Republic in that regard.

    I would too, but since both of the societies we are talking about are healthy (especially when compared to the rest of the Western World), things like serious air pollution become the deciding factor.

  13. Croatian Capitalist says:

    More on the pollution problem in Poland: https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/smog-the-canary-in-the-mine-for-poland-s-political-climate-20180327-p4z6k9.html

    “Some areas have been measured at times to be more polluted than Beijing and it is estimated that 45,000 people die each year due to the high level of pollution the coal burning causes.”

    To put things into perspective, more people die from air pollution in Poland each year than are murdered in Mexico and South Africa combined.

  14. Croatian Capitalist says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/30/czech-republics-economic-boom-credited-high-tech-low-taxes/

    The Czech Republic definitely seems (at least as far as Europe is concerned) to be the best option.

  15. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I have changed my mind and decided to make Hungary my “Plan A”, even though Hungarian is the hardest non-Asian language of interest to me, I have decided to try and learn it, because Hungary is the only Western country whose future I am optimistic about, plus moving to Hungary would financially, logistically (Budapest is only about 3 hours by car from where I live), etc. be the easiest move for me, the Czechs seem to have decided to follow Western Europe in regards to social policy, so that removes them from the running, as for Poland, as I have mentioned several times, I consider it’s pollution problems a big issue which disqualifies the vast majority of Polish cities as places where I would consider moving to (actually, there is only one major city in Poland I would consider moving to), plus the more I read about Polish politics, the more they remind me of American politics, but from decades ago, so I increasingly have the feeling that Poland will follow America’s example, with the “conservatives” becoming total cucks and the “liberals” becoming total lunatics, therefore I have lost my optimism in regards to Poland’s future, so I seriously doubt that Poland will end up being my emigration destination.

    • fafc says:

      I wish I had settled in Hungary. Right now it is my favorite place. Although I am no as pessimistic about Latin America as you. Yes the place is totally screwed up, but when the entire world becomes a complete fuckfest of stupidity, where else can better handle it?

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        I agree that buying a ranch for example somewhere in the Southern Cone and seeing out World War III there would probably be the best idea if World War III broke out in Europe and Asia, but in normal circumstances I just don’t see the appeal of moving to Latin America, lets compare even Croatia with the least bad Latin American countries:

        – In Croatia your chances of getting randomly assaulted or something like that are next to zero, but in Santiago de Chile, Buenos Aires, etc. it is an everyday occurrence.

        – In Croatia the currency is stable, while in Argentina the inflation rate is 47%.

        – Argentina, Chile, etc. are all full of third worlders, but there are hardly any of them in Croatia.

        – I can drink the water out of the tap here without any issues, while in Paraguay I wouldn’t be able to do that.

        – Croatia has a higher standard of living than any Latin American country does.

        Etc.

        I just can’t see a move to Latin America being an improvement in any way (and especially not an improvement overall) under normal circumstances, the only advantage it has over the better European and Asian countries that it is unlikely to be affected directly by World War III if it happens, and that is hardly enough to make me move there, since I don’t foresee a war engulfing all of Europe and Asia happening anytime soon (if ever).

        • fafc says:

          All those things you said about Croatia are today. If everything went to hell would they still remain? I don’t think it has to be WW III just something shocking, perhaps an economic collapse in Europe, USA or Asia. Resiliency is not always pretty.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            Even in such a dire situation, on all points Croatia would still be better (or less bad if you prefer) than Latin America (and if the American economy really collapsed, it would hurt Latin America more than Croatia), plus even if the cities here became Latin American-like, I would still have the option to retreat into the countryside like an acquaintance of mine did years ago (he bought land in the Neretva Valley and built a house and farm on it, plus he generates his own electricity and has his own fresh water resovoir, so he is completely self-sufficient, plus his estate is nowhere near any major settlement, so there is no real danger of trouble from the cities spilling over to his land).

  16. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I think that I am now at the point where emigrating isn’t anymore a question of “if”, but of “when”, because the more I think about it, the less sense it makes to stay here, and every day the situation gets worse and worse (I in all seriousness think that what the communist degenerates here are doing meets at least 1 (the third one) of the 5 UN definitions of genocide: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-11108059), so I think that I will move to a pro-business country within the next few years (even if it doesn’t end up being Hungary), because I see no long-term future for sane people here.

    • fafc says:

      Well, it is just my opinion after spending a good deal of my life trying to find that perfect place and failing miserably… the best thing to do is find a place you like and plan on leaving on short notice. From what you say Croatia is slowly turning into a dangerous police state. All that is required is some kind of emergency (fabricated or legitimate) and the police will be seizing anything they want. The history of the region is not encouraging. Why I am considering Latin America.. yes it is a mess. But it is a consistent and steady mess. The government pretends to control everyone, everyone pretends to respect the government, and everyone more less just does whatever they want subject to the occasional ‘revolution’ which depending upon the country, is usually very predictable and easy to avoid if you have not set down roots too deep. That is be ready to leave and go somewhere else until everything settles down. In some countries that might just mean internal movement (Mexico comes to mind here), or some neighboring country (Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, etc.). When things go bad there they usually don’t go as bad as in Europe or Asia, just as when things are good they are not as good as in Europe or Asia.

  17. Croatian Capitalist says:

    That might become the case in a few decades after the politicians have stolen everything else and the private sector becomes way too small to support all of the moochers (I don’t even want to imagine the tax terror private businesses here will be under in 20 years time, it will make France look like Dubai in comparison), but I plan to leave way before that, that is some time next year or during 2021 at the latest.

    As for Latin America, I just can’t see myself living there.

    • fafc says:

      I really like latin culture; food is great, the people are friendly and conservative in their personal daily lives, music is great, etc. That said, the government is something that can at best be tolerated if you don’t allow yourself to get sucked into participating in any way. You should just stay under their radar and enjoy the ambiance with an eye constantly on the exit.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        My opinion of Latin American culture is the complete opposite. 😀

        • fafc says:

          That is the great mystery of Latin America. On a personal level, and a day to day living level, it is marvelous. On a macro level it is terrible. But I don’t live on the macro level, or at least I have given up on that. And even if I did care about the macro level, most ‘prosperous’ nations are built on lies and doomed to fail eventually. Or are just so fragile as to be destroyed by the smallest bump in the road.

  18. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Anyway, I am making a list of potential emigration destination cities and I plan to visit them over the next year (I have been to some previously, like Budapest for example, but that vas a long time ago and I wasn’t looking at it as a potential emigration destination back then), after that I will make my final decision, and I am also thinking about getting a master’s degree, because I plan to change careers (plus if I eventually decide to emigrate to somewhere outside of the European Economic Area, it will be easier to do with a master’s degree, than with a bachelor’s degree).

    • fafc says:

      Good hunting.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Thank you. 🙂

        By the way, what does that lawyer friend of yours say about the situation in Hungary?

        • fafc says:

          He is of two minds. On the one hand he absolutely detests Orban on a personal and ideological basis, but he is quite happy about how business and the nation is progressing. I think he likes the money enough to forget about the past slights he received by Orban’s political party.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            That is a good sign, when even your opponents have to admit that your are doing a good job (even if that acknowledgement comes in a roundabout way).

  19. Croatian Capitalist says:

    “You are”, not “your” in the the post above.

  20. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Do you have any recommendations in regards to which cities to visit as potential emigration destinations? So far I have put Budapest, Gyor, Lugano and Gdynia on the list.

    • fafc says:

      I have only been in Budapest other than a bus trip through the Southern region to Bulgaria last summer. I get the impression that things vary dramatically when you leave Budapest from touristy frolic locations to desperate rural poverty. I wanted to spend a few months in Hungary this summer exploring just those issues, but situations in Georgia and the US have made that very unlikely for me.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Yes, I actually remember that there were some really poor rural areas between the border and Budapest, but that doesn’t really concern me, I avoid such places in Croatia, and I will avoid them if I move to Hungary.

        What about theoretically? You don’t need to actually visit a place to think that it would be a good idea to move there.

        What is your opinion of Tbilisi, now that you have lived there for the last few years?

        • fafc says:

          Budapest is awesome and is my number one choice after 4 years of bouncing around. Tbilisi was great 2 years ago and has been going to down hill. The people are both stupid and xenophobic. They are obsessed with the EU and NATO without taking the time to think about the actual consequences and history of the region, nor their real potential enemies. Add to the problem a total lack of interest in doing anything whatsoever to improve the city, and it leaves me very depressed. The country has pretty much committed itself to only two industries; tourism and transportation throughway and hub. The tourism is gong into the toilet because Georgians refuse to clean up Tbilisi. It is actually much dirtier than it was 3 years ago. Too many cars, bad air, animal feces everywhere, etc.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            Well, Tbilisi is one city I won’t be adding to the list then, haha.

            I have to admit that I am finding it difficult to add any more cities to the list than the 4 I mentioned above, I have looked at all of the major cities in Hungary, and only Budapest and Gyor are of interest to me, in Poland the only two major cities without pollution problems are Gdynia and Gdansk, but since Gdansk in a stronghold of the Polish version of “liberals”, that takes it out of the running, in Switzerland the city of Lugano in the Italian-speaking canton of Ticino is the only city which interests me, since the French-speaking part of Switzerland is largely leftist, and the German-speaking part has some strange Swiss version of German (which the Germans from Germany don’t understand!) they speak in everyday life, so in addition to learning standard German, I would have to also learn the strange local Swiss German, and I have no interest in that, there are some more cities across Europe which I might be prepared to spend a year in to get my master’s degree, but I can’t see myself permanently moving to any of them.

  21. Croatian Capitalist says:

    In any case, no matter where I end up going, I am 99,9% sure that it will be somewhere in Europe, because Latin America is a place I can’t imagine myself moving to except maybe if World War III happens, Canada is an unfunny joke, I don’t have to explain to you why the USA is a place to avoid, Africa is and will remain a violent basket-case of a continent, Australia and New Zealand are too far away (just thinking about having to spend over 30 hours at airports and in airplanes to get there makes me lose any interest in going there even as a tourist), are suffering the same social degeneration as the USA, UK and Canada, have sky-high real estate prices, Australia is full of poisonous animals, etc., so they don’t interest me as emigration destinations, in Asia I am not going to go to China or Vietnam even as a tourist while the communists are in charge, even if the mullahs were removed from power today, Iran wouldn’t recover and become a normal country for decades, so until the mullahs are removed from power, Iran won’t be even a tourist destination for me, much less an emigration one, some of the oil-rich Arab countries like the UAE and Qatar might look good on paper, but I am quite certain that I wouldn’t like it there for a wide variety of reasons, even ignoring the problems Israel and it’s neighbors have with each other, I see no advantages it offers over let’s say Switzerland (apart from maybe the weather, but even if I decided to make weather the main criteria, moving to some place like Las Palmas would still make more sense than moving to Israel), even though I like many things about Singapore, I don’t like the fact it is so small in regards to territory, I don’t like it’s neighborhood, I don’t like it’s very high prices and some other things, so I have decided it to remove it from the running, as much as I like the Japanese and (south) Koreans, I just can’t see myself putting in the effort to learn their languages, scripts (even though Hangul is relatively easy to learn, especially compared to the Japanese script), etiquette, etc., and even if somehow I mastered all of that, I am sure that gaining permanent residency would be a bureaucratic hassle, plus there are other issues such as the very high real estate prices for example, so realistically they are out of the running as well, and I can’t think of a single non-European country I haven’t mentioned above that would be worth serious consideration as a potential emigration destination.

    • fafc says:

      I have to agree with much of what you are saying. A lot is about personal preferences. I would much prefer Latin America over any part of Asia for the simple reason that it is the devil I know. I will only say that I think you are trying to be too exact and perfectionist. Four years ago Tbilisi looked marvelous; now not so much. But it is still a nice place to live, and much better than most options out there. Who is to say that places that look so wonderful today do not turn to shit in a year or so? My lesson from Tbilisi is to be cautious and not try to over think things. My confidence level in Georgia was way too high just as my confidence in other places turned out to be way too low. In hindsight I see it now, but then I was using my best judgement. If I could do it over, and I suppose I can, I will be much more cautious and much less confident. Also, I will put much less weight in a countries objective standards at any time and rely less on perceived safety and progress, and more on my own personal needs and safety. Simply put, I will not place my trust in anything or anyone in the future. So in light of that, perhaps more risky places will be fine as long as they are not in a war zone, and I have not invested anything that cannot be removed in a very short amount of time.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        In the end it all does come down to personal preferences, for example I have some friends who moved to Florida and they are happy there, because they make good money, live in a safe neighborhood and city, and the weather is warm, and that is what matters to them, unlike them, I am not oblivious to the general direction the USA is heading in, so moving to the USA doesn’t interest me, but that doesn’t make their decision a wrong one, if they are happy with their decision to move to the USA, that makes it the right decision.

  22. Croatian Capitalist says:

    https://www.thelocal.de/20190412/explained-how-to-get-a-blue-card-to-live-and-work-in-germany

    Even though I wouldn’t recommend moving to Germany to anyone, still if somebody is interested in moving to the EU, this is one of the ways to do it.

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