Let’s look no further than Mexico, our southern neighbor in absolute free fall, for some ideas. Here are a few things we’ve observed over the past year:
- Mexico just elected a Leftist populist leader who railed against the incumbent president over 1) widespread corruption, 2) rising crime, 3) the inability to deal with the cartels, and 4) a lack of economic growth.
- Drug cartels run Mexico. Underneath the positions of de jure power (the president, the congress, state governors, mayors, etc.) are echelons of de facto power. When we talk about collapse, this is the collapse of the Mexican government which lost political control over large swathes of their country. Do you remember the scene in Captain Philips, where the Somali pirate is holding the AK-47 and says, “Look at me. I am de captain now”? That’s the relationship between irregular forces in de facto authority/control over an area, and the government with de jure authority. And for much of Mexico, that’s the relationship between cartels, militias, and their federal government. That’s a great example of collapse.
- The Associated Press last week reported about a rise in “mass crime” in Mexico: “'[S]ocialized’ or ‘mass’ crimes are spreading in Mexico as entire communities empty freight trains of merchandise or steal hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel from pipelines.” That’s reminiscent of U.S. flash mobs where, oftentimes, dozens of black teenagers will loot convenience stories (Wal-Marts have also been targets) and authorities are basically powerless to a) prevent it and b) catch all the thieves. Back to the situation in Mexico, the AP cites a research fellow at Columbia University: “The logic of the people [engaged in mass theft] is that they see politicians and officials stealing big time … and they see themselves as having the same right to steal as the big-time politicians.” He continues: “You begin to create an ethical code in which, ‘If the upper-class people can steal and get away with it, we can steal, too, with complete justification.’” That’s a society in collapse.
- In May, two supermarkets refused to pay an extortion fee for a local cartel and paid a price, anyway. Gunmen broke locks on the two supermarkets and allowed the locals to loot the stores. “Police didn’t show up for hours” and the supermarket owners were virtually powerless in preventing the mass looting. This is happening across the country. That’s a society in outright collapse. That’s an outright “failure of civility”.
- Earlier this year, train robbers were blocking tracks an average of six times per day, where “thieves open up grain hoppers or freight cars and people swoop in en masse as police or soldiers stand by outnumbered and overwhelmed.”
- There’s a CBC article from March 2017 that claims “Mexican cartel earns more from mining and logging than drugs”. Instead of producing and trafficking methamphetamine for their primary source of income, the cartel is mining, transporting and selling iron ore and clear cutting forests for lumber. Where are the authorities to stop the illegal mining and logging? Virtually no where to be found. “I’ve never looked at them as drug-trafficking organizations,” Logan said of Mexico’s cartels. Says one expert: “[The cartels are] multinational corporations that will react to market pressures and do what they have to do to stay in business.”
- In 2017, Mexico experienced a record number of homicides, numbering nearly 30,000, and the country is on track to make a new homicide record in 2018. There have been over 200,000 murders since 2007. There’s no control over the lawlessness. [source]
We often think of places like Somalia and Afghanistan as failed states yet we overlook our southern neighbor and fail to realize just how bad the situation is there. And I think we should consider it as a model for U.S. collapse. (The word “ungovernable” comes to mind, which incidentally is a rallying cry of the anti-Trump resistance.)
read more at: https://forwardobserver.com/what-could-collapse-look-like-lets-look-at-a-country-currently-in-free-fall/
Sadly, it would seem so.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/19/nicaragua-is-on-the-path-to-becoming-the-next-venezuela/?utm_term=.abc5d69ee07c
The whole of Latin America apart from Chile (which has started heading in that direction too) is one big failed region, I would only consider moving there if World War III broke out in Europe and Asia.
Perhaps you are right. But on the other hand Mexico and other countries have more or less lives without an effective government for decades or more. A certain balance has formed, at least in some places. Mexicans are used to a certain degree of chaos and will more likely survive and prosper under such conditions.
It probably is true that Mexicans and their like would fare better than Americans and similar people in the event of total economic collapse happening, but I am not American, and I don’t live in America, so Mexico (and similar countries) doesn’t interest me in that regard, as low of an opinion as I have on the majority of my countrymen, I still think that Croatia turning into Maduro’s Venezuela is science fiction, while in the case of the Czech Republic I find it even (much) more ludicrous of a suggestion.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/21/americas/farc-members-join-colombias-congress/index.html
Communist terrorists being given seats in parliament, what an insult to all of their victims.
As long as they are kept on a short leash I think it a healthy part of the peace. Not everything they were complaining about was unfounded. Having them participate is better than having them fighting. The issue which we will see is whether they are sincere, or like most Leninists and Marxists, just using the democratic institutions to bring down the government.
I don’t think it is healthy at all, Croatia gave the Serbs guaranteed seats in parliament and double voting rights (so in addition to deciding who gets those guaranteed seats, they can also vote in the normal elections) even after all of the savagery they committed here in the 1990’s, so guess what happens when something hinges on a few votes? People who hate the country in which they live in and who don”t consider it their own country get to blackmail the government and decide the direction of the country, does that sound healthy to you? So I am totally against this, I have seen first hand that offering olive branches to terrorists and/or people who hate you doesn’t work, if anything it emboldens them to work even harder against you, because they see you as weak.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/27/venezuelan-inflation-predicted-to-hit-1-million-percent-this-year.html
And still idiots in the West will continue advocating for socialism.
Its hopeless. An entire generation robbed of any sense of reason or logic.
I think that you are right, the way things are looking now, the future of countries like the USA, UK, etc. is (very) dark, the majority of their youth are beyond stupid.
Not natural stupid, which is sad and depressing, but can be dealt with. This is indoctrinated, created stupid. Reinforced by social media, music, news, and entertainment.
I agree that this is mostly the result of indoctrination (which has gone on for a very long time, most of the major universities and media outlets in the West were infiltrated by leftists before either of us were born), but still I do think that something is naturally wrong with them, you went through the same or similar indoctrination that they did, but you are not a socialist moron, I went through the same socialist indoctrination that the rest of the Croatian population went through, but unlike 90%+ of them, I am not a socialist moron, while on the other hand most of the American, British, Swedish, etc. youth have accepted leftist garbage (and I am not writing just about economics (namely the fact that they support socialism, even though socialism has been a complete failure in every country where it has been tried), but for example they also believe in things that defy basic biology) hook, line, and sinker, so there has to be some genetic reason for this behavior.
I am 53 years old, and I can say for a fact that I did not undergo this level of mind numbing indoctrination regarding political correctness, and other issues that create a person who is incapable of simple rational thought. My education was very different, and my social environment was very different. I really pity these kids for the crap they have to wade through. Its a miracle they learn anything at all. I think the social garbage that they are inundated by is the worst, and the stupidity of it is terrifyingly contagious. The latest one is the transgender garbage. 10 years ago making the following comment would NOT have been controversial: people who have transgender issues may be suffering from gender dysphoria which is a clinically diagnosed medical condition that can be treated humanely with psychiatry and psychology. Now you will be shouted down as a bigot and a hater because you acknowledge simple biological facts.
In other words, how can you come out of this society and not be horrendously confused? You are denied the most basic facts as facts. Biology is not important, but how you feel at any particular moment. Gender fluidity. This is a form of insanity that is being encouraged rather than treated. What is so tragic is that none of these issues, whether it is ‘gender fluidity’ or ‘income inequality’ are in any ways new. Only the way we think about them has changed, and I believe that is because the most recent generations have been raised to not think at all.
Yes, the most recent generations in the West have been raised horribly, the media and schools have been totally complicit in dumbing them down, but most importantly they have been let down by their own parents.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-03/im-totally-freaked-out-brazils-elite-fleeing-bloodshed-and-chaos
Hopefully they won’t support socialism and “multiculturalism” (the two main reasons Brazil is the mess it is) wherever they end up going, like so many idiotic rich people do in the West.
They probably will. Its all they know. If they knew better they would stay in Brazil and fix their own country.
To be honest, I don’t think that Brazil is fixable, it would need extreme measures to even begin to resemble a civilized country, and how many Brazilians do you think would vote for that? 5%? 10%? In any case way below 50%, therefore it won’t get fixed through democratic means, which leaves a Pinochet-type military coup as the only other option, which I don’t think will happen, and even if it did, you would probably have the “international community” put sanctions on Brazil right away, which coupled with the fact that most Brazilians are low IQ socialists would mean that even that option would have slim chances of successfully civilizing Brazil, so if I were a member of the Brazilian elite, I too would sell everything I own in Brazil and move to some civilized country.
Yeah. My ex-wife was Brazilian and she would occasionally respond to my ideas of moving to some place nice with, “Why don’t we go to Brazil?” I knew this was just a ploy to get into a fight with me, so I would just say, “Yes, that would be a wonderful idea.” Then she stopped talking.
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One place that won’t become a failed state is South Korea: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/06/south-korea-is-going-crazy-over-a-handful-of-refugees/
It seems that the best defense against Western style decadence is Asian style repression. Not very encouraging. Let us hope we can fix our own house in our own way.
Even though I too would like to see the West fixed in it’s own way, I think that the majority of the West (France, Canada, the USA, the UK, Germany, etc.) are way past that point, if they ever do return to sanity, it will probably be after long civil wars, and decades of rebuilding society from the ground up after those civil wars end, so for the purposes of this website, the majority of the West is useless, most countries in Eastern Europe can still be saved more or less peacefully, and maybe a few Western European ones like Switzerland and Iceland too, but in general I think that the West’s return to sanity (if it even happens) will be long and hard.
Brazil, world leader of homicides, hits new record: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/09/brazil-world-leader-homicides-hits-new-record.html
“A record 63,880 people were slain in Brazil last year, making it the deadliest year in the country’s history, a report said Thursday.”
Brazil really is a place to be avoided.
Sadly, true. And unlike Mexico, the violence is not as localized, and thus difficult to avoid. You just can’t say, “Avoid going to [blank] and everything will be ok.”
On the positive side, it looks like AMLO is NOT turning to the dark side like people feared. He seems to be doing what most politicians do: say one thing to get elected, and then do totally another. Which in his case would be a good thing because there is not doubt that Mexico needs reform, and oddly enough a Leftist might be able to execute those reforms from the inside whereas a conservative would be attacked at every turn, much like Trump is experiencing in the USSA.
Yes, from time to time these things do happen, namely somebody who is supposed to be a leftist/social democrat/whatever gets elected and does pro-market reforms, while the leftist media remains mostly silent, while if somebody from the right got elected and tried to do those same reforms, they would as you wrote get attacked at every turn.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/18/broken-britain-as-recorded-crime-all-time-high-prosecutions-plunge-all-time-low/
I think the UK is a prime candidate to become the first Western European failed state, even though I think that France and Sweden will give the UK a run for it’s money.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/19/exclusive-british-govt-back-land-reforms-aimed-dispossessing-south-africas-white-minority/
South Africa is yet another failed state, while this story also shows the mindset of the people leading the UK.
Very sad.
Yes, but unlike any other Westerners, the Whites in South Africa were literally given a referendum on whether they want to keep their country and way of life, or hand it over to communists who hate them, and they choose to hand over everything that their ancestors built over the preceding 340 years to the anti-White ANC communists, so I only have sympathy for the minority who were intelligent enough to know that handing the country over to communists can only end in one way, while the majority got what it voted it for, so no sympathy for them from me.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/30/argentina-crisis-peso-crashes-to-record-low-amid-imf-plea.html
If there is a Hell, I hope that Peron is burning in it.
Ukraine facing labor ‘catastrophe’ as millions of citizens flee country: https://www.rt.com/business/437581-ukraine-labor-catastrophe-people-flee/
Ukraine should be one of the richest countries in Europe based on natural potential, but instead it is a failed state and the poorest country in Europe.
I only hope the Ukrainians are not like the Californians: intentionally destroy their state then move somewhere else and repeat the process.
Well, the Ukrainians have had a large diaspora in Canada, the USA and a few other countries for quite a long time, and I don’t know a single example of the Ukrainians behaving Californian-like as a group.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/illegal-immigrants-cited-in-theft-of-39-million-social-security-numbers
39 million social security numbers get stolen and nobody does anything about it.
Ecuador looks like it is going the way of Mexico: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/10/ecuador-armed-internal-conflict-gangs/