Should you leave the USA before the collapse? Words of wisdom from someone who tried

An interesting article about a guy who left the USA for South America, and found it less than ideal. I think the most important issue he raised is that of culture. Some cultures are simply not conducive to long-term thinking and therefore not ideal for someone who is looking to be prepared.

In observing all this first hand, I’ve come to the conclusion that the embracing of socialism throughout South America is the result of cultural short-term thinking.

For example, throughout South America, people often buy prescription medicines one pill at a time. They buy a bag of twenty screws from the hardware store, then return to the store after they run out to buy another twenty. This is often infuriating to the “gringos” who are trying to build a house, for example, because they operate with the idea that you should just buy 5,000 screws all at once and have plenty to get the job done. I can assure you from first-hand experience that such a concept is completely alien to a great many South Americans (most notably in rural areas).


I too have experienced this same sort of attitude and it is something that I think needs to be taken into consideration. If you are going to bug-out to someplace like that, you better be willing and able to put up with this attitude and to a certain degree embrace it. If you fight it you will lose.

This is why I am more and more drawn to Europe, particularly Eastern Europe. I will blend in better, and the attitudes of the people are more similar to mine.

In the end this author decided to hunker down in Texas. As he points out, there are a lot of advantages to this. You have less to fear from the population and the local government, and it is easier to fit in, but the issues of Big Government don’t go away because you are in Texas. In the worst case scenario, being in Texas may not be any better than being in Maryland, my humble opinion. The idea that Texas is filled with rugged-individualists is just so much horse-hockey. Texans may not be as prone to socialist ideas and government dependency as those folks in California and Illinois, but they sure as hell aren’t the folks who took on Santa Anna, the Apaches, the Commanchees, etc. Most have become soft, dependent, and just as passive as the rest of the country  — wearing lizard skin cowboy boots don’t make you a cowboy.

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4 Responses to Should you leave the USA before the collapse? Words of wisdom from someone who tried

  1. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Well, if somebody thinks that economic-societal collapse will happen in their country (whether the country in question is the USA, Sweden or some third one is irrelevant in my opinion) in the near future, I think that leaving is the only logical/natural course of action, I mean, if a ship that you on has started sinking and can’t be saved, wouldn’t it be crazy to go down with the ship instead of going for the life boats and saving yourself? I think it would be, and the USA would for various reason probably be the worst first World country to in if a major collapse happened, so if I were an American, I would leave the USA.

    • fafc says:

      That has been my thoughts for quite some time. However, I think the issue is not to be addressed with reason, but with empathy. Those who have confronted the change in the USA are confronted with the death of all their dreams. This is a matter of grieving… for the dead. There are five stages of grief: Denial, Anger, Bartering, Depression, and Acceptance. Most Americans are not past the denial.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Well, of course I feel sorry for the America of old dying, it had the potential to be(come) the greatest country in history, but what we call “America” today is almost the complete opposite (or at least getting there fast) of what the Founding Fathers intended America to be(come).

        Anyway, as I think I have already written a few times, just like the mass emigration of Greek scholars from Constantinople after the Crusaders sacked it (1204) and the Turks conquered it (1453) helped massively in setting the stage for the Renaissance and thus making Italy the center of civilization, I think we will see a similar situation develop in the 21st century after the sane and capable people start leaving en mass the first World countries that will (in all likelihood) suffer collapse (the USA, Canada, Germany, Sweden, the UK, etc.).

        • fafc says:

          Yes, but again getting them to leave is going to require them to proceed through 5 stages of grief. Its not a rational issue but an emotional one. I started about 20 years ago, but I must admit I am still somewhere between depression and acceptance. It just makes me so sad. But no action can come until you have passed denial, anger, and bartering.

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