Some Good News From Latin America: Chile and Mexico

Years ago I was very optimistic about Latin America, but in the last decade I have become very pessimistic. It seems that socialism and dependency on government are an integral part of Latin culture. Even where there is improvement it seems the centrifugal force of Latin culture pulls them back to a degraded socialist state.

But there has been some good news:

Good News on Chile

What is clear is that Chile is a stable democracy, a stable culture, and a free market economy. It meets the classic definition of a successful nation-state. It is finally liberalizing where necessary (in areas like divorce), but not at extreme levels (as in depopulating on-demand abortion). It embraces change, but not at a disruptive pace. It has not adopted so much of the suicidal self-destructive tendencies of so many Western democracies, though Michelle Bachelet’s recent pronouncement on acceptance of gay marriage may be a troubling turn of events.
Chile has become first world. Should its present socialist president avoid extreme social engineering, by all accounts Chile may soon become a world power, while the rest of the West socially engineers itself to death.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/chile__a_rising_star.html#.VRa3wXsUSEI.google_plusone_share#ixzz3Vh7IsHp1

Good news about Mexico:

It doesn’t take an advanced finance degree to understand why Mexico is projected–by Goldman Sachs, among others–to represent the world’s fifth largest economy by 2050.

The most populous Spanish-speaking country in the world, Mexico has booming ports on both oceans, abundant natural resources, a longstanding, well-developed industrial sector, close business ties to the United States, and easy access to the burgeoning US Latino population (with their soon-to-be $1.5 trillion in buying power).

But one thing that tends to get lost in this predictive calculus is that, even after just a few years of gestation, Mexico already boasts one of the more dynamic startup scenes in Latin America.

If Mexico is indeed moving beyond the maquiladora manufacturers and their free trade zones in the process of building the world’s next great economy, technology and innovation will be a part of the foundation of that economy.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/26/beyond-the-maquiladora-a-look-at-mexicos-startup-scene/?ncid=rss

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54 Responses to Some Good News From Latin America: Chile and Mexico

  1. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Economic progress means little in the end if you aren’t willing to defend your borders, Chile has passed at least two amnesties for illegal aliens to my knowledge and there are at least dozens of thousands of new ones in Chile right now and more come in every day from Bolivia, Peru and other poor socialist countries, so I can’t see Chile being a real improvement over the USA, I have no idea how Mexico handles it’s immigration issues though.

  2. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Why do all of these countries (the USA, Chile, Spain, Brazil, Mexico, etc.) even have immigration laws, if they have no intention of enforcing them? They reward the law-breakers and make the law-abiding people who actually follow the proper immigration procedure look like idiots, it makes no sense.

    • fafc says:

      Perhaps that is the point. Creating a sub-class of totally dependent people who are not part of the equation, yet are at the command of the elite. The citizens and the illegals are just dupes to be played with, played against.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Divide and conquer (even though divide and collapse seems more accurate/fitting) is a good theory, but if it’s true, it’s really short-sighted of them, I don’t see how it is in their interest to live in a lawless, poor and crime-ridden third World country, and that is exactly what such policies eventually lead to..

        Regardless of the reason(s), I don’t want to live in such countries, where the rule of law/legal safety doesn’t really exist, I mean, if certain governments don’t follow/uphold their own laws, how can then a regular person have faith that they will be treated fairly within/by such a system? I don’t, so any country that rewards criminals for breaking the law is automatically disqualified from being on my list of potential emigration destinations.

        • fafc says:

          The elites live in segregated penthouses and walled in communities guarded 24/7 from the hell on earth they are creating. That is how it is in most Latin countries. That is what is happening to America. The rich are totally separated from the rest of the country. But the real sad thing is when the people become so stupid as to embrace the very people who are bringing them such injustice. Words become more powerful than action.

  3. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I am not sure that they are really safe even in such communities in third World countries, to my knowledge violent criminals have managed to enter them and commit serious crimes on numerous occasions in South Africa, besides, they and their families have to go outside them sooner or later, and even with armed guards, I don’t see how they could be comfortable walking/driving around places such as Caracas, San Pedro Sula, Fortaleza, Cape Town, etc., and if the USA becomes third World, places such as Detroit, Saint Louis, New Orleans, Baltimore, etc. will probably become the most violent in the entire World.

    • fafc says:

      Such measures improve safety, not eliminate danger, but there is also an issue of perception.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Yes, but if that is the case, isn’t it strange then that so many countries have leaders with such warped senses of reality? Especially since the experiences of other countries shows that their theories just don’t fly in reality, I mean, is there even one country in the Americas which actually defends it’s borders, upholds the rule of law in general, is economically more or less free (or at least heading there) and has a low (violent) crime rate? If there is, sadly I don’t see it.

        • fafc says:

          These countries are not countries, they are crime syndicates, and they are run by people who don’t care about very much other than skimming the cream off the top, and leaving whatever is left to the rest. The USA is becoming the same way. No one cares. The elites are living large in mansions, expensive cars, jet-set lifestyle.
          The dumbed down poor take the crumbs from what falls from the plate of their betters. That is not how the USA used to work, but it is what is happening.

          If you were on top, would you want to change things? You could lose everything you have if it turns out that it takes more than Daddy’s money and body-guards to get things done. In a free country such men usually fail.

  4. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Yes, I would, these people are so rich that they could live like kings solely from the interest on their bank savings, which would in a free country be totally safe, while in third World countries some lunatic dictator coming to power and expropriating your money, real estate, etc. is always a danger (not to mention the danger of getting killed by the dictatorship), so unless the children of these people are extremely stupid, they wouldn’t have problems living in a free country (or at least not more than they do now).

  5. Croatian Capitalist says:

    I have no faith in Brazil, that society is among the most socialist in the World.

    • fafc says:

      and corrupt. corrupt from the top down, and the bottom up. the whole society is built on moral and ethical corruption. but good news is good news.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        To me socialism and corruption are synonyms, both in the judicial sense and the general moral one.

        As for the news that some of the young in Brazil have started supporting the free market, that is of course good news, but it isn’t “game-changing” good news.

  6. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Argentina economy: Workers protest as inflation soars: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/argentina-economy-workers-protest-inflation-soars-180524090647490.html

    I have no faith that Argentina will ever change, the only way I could even theoretically see myself moving to Latin America is if it became obvious that World War 3 breaking out is imminent in the whole of Europe (there was no fighting in South America during the first 2 World Wars, and it’s unlikely that it would actively participate in World War 3 either, it might actually benefit since many Europeans would seek refuge there), since I have no intention whatsoever of fighting for either the socialist Croatian state or the socialist EU.

    • fafc says:

      Brazilians have a saying about their country that I also think applies to Argentina: Brazil is the Nation of the Future! And always will be.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        And it’s true, based on their natural potential, Argentina and Brazil should be amongst the 10 richest countries in the World, but neither of them will ever reach Croatia’s standard of living, much less Switzerland’s or Singapore’s.

        • fafc says:

          but on the other hand there are some advantages to living in a comfortable 3rd World Country without pretensions of grandeur.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            True, but I still wouldn’t want to live in such a country.

          • fafc says:

            Why not? My biggest gripe against Trump was his MAGA BS. Why should I want to Make America Great Again? The best times for America was before we were great, but when were FREE! That is all I really care about at this point. If I can be free, what do I care about the rest?

  7. Croatian Capitalist says:

    If we are talking about countries like Argentina, among other reasons high inflation, high crime rates , rampant corruption, socialists coming to power always being a serious possibility (actually, in Argentina’s case its more the norm), etc., if I ever do end up leaving Croatia, I want to move to a country where the issues that annoy me about Croatia are either non-existent or at least much less severe, not to a country which has all the problems that Croatia has (and where those problems are more severe), plus additional problems which don’t exist here.

    What is your definition of freedom?

    • fafc says:

      At this point I don’t believe in traditional democratic political freedom. That is a myth. There are just some regimes that mess with you less, but the guys on top are on top for a reason. I consider freedom a personal thing. And it will change from person to person, and even over time. Can I go about unimpeded and allowed to do what I want? I was speaking to a guy in El Salvador who said it was the greatest place in the world for him, even though he acknowledged it had many negatives. The things he couldn’t do he didn’t care about, and the things he did care about were freely available in abundance. I like Georgia a lot, but people who are very Social Leftists (the Social Justice Warrior types) are either miserable here or in heaven as they have a found place where there is something to get angry about every minute of the day. I like Mexico a lot. Is the government efficient and honest? No. Is it likely to get better any time soon? No. Is it universally safe? No. But if you are careful about where you go and who you associate with, and you have a little bit of money in your pocket Mexico can be a really great place. The life is good, the pace is slow, there is always a celebration going on if only in your own head. I guess it really just depends upon what you are looking for.

  8. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Well, of course in the end it comes down to personal preferences, but there is a reason that people (especially people with money) generally avoid certain places, as for democracy, I never really believed in it in the first place, in most “democratic” countries you just have two groups of criminals constantly changing places in stealing from the people, my preference is either a capitalist monarchy or a Pinochetian stratocracy.

    As for what I am looking for, I would like to move to a country which is majority Caucasian (and has a population of at least a few million people), has a functionating judiciary, which is pro-entrepreneurial, where the laws are in favour of the victims and not the criminals, which has a low crime rate, which is socially conservative and economically liberal (is the classical sense of course, since the modern “liberals” are communists), where the women are generally good looking, which has quality armed forces (there is no sense in having a proper country in all other departments if you can’t defend it), plus two things which would be nice, but are not required, namely it having warm weather and a (very) low or non-existant risk of serious natural disasters, and I think that more or less generally covers things which I consider important.

  9. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Since I openly outlined my criteria above, I am going to list the countries which I consider to match the criteria (some will be guesswork, since I obviously haven’t for example read the laws of every prospective emigration destination in the World in great detail) in each each category and then see which country comes out on top:

    1. Majority Caucasian (since I don’t fancy living in a country where I would be a racial minority, and even in theory the only non-Caucasian countries I would consider moving to are the (East) Asian ones) and a population and a population of at least a few million people: The vast majority of Western countries fulfill this criteria, and even some non-Western ones do, so listing them all individually wouldn’t make sense.

    2. Functioning judiciary: Japan, South Korea, Singapore, the Czech Republic, Estonia, the United Arab Emirates, Hungary and Poland

    3. Pro-entrepreneurial: Singapore, Estonia, the Czech Republic, Georgia, the United Arab Emirates, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Switzerland, Ireland, Latvia, Poland, Hungary, Japan and South Korea

    4. Laws in favour of the victims and not the criminals: the Czech Republic, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, Japan, Poland and South Korea

    5. Low crime rate: Japan, Singapore, South Korea, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Switzerland, Croatia, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic

    6. Socially conservative: Poland, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Qatar, Slovakia, Croatia and South Korea

    7. Economically liberal (in the classical sense): Singapore, the Czech Republic, the United Arab Emirates, Estonia, Australia, Switzerland, New Zealand, Ireland, South Korea, Poland and Hungary

    8: Women generally being good looking: Hungary, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Finland, Estonia, the United Arab Emirates (I am guessing here, since Lebanon is the only Arab country I have been to, but if the Emirati women look even remotely similar to the Lebanese ones, then they belong in this category) Russia, South Korea, Japan, Croatia, Lebanon, Israel, Slovenia, Iran, Lithuania, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Turkey, Singapore and Latvia

    9. Quality armed forces: Poland, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, Israel, Turkey, South Korea, Japan and the USA

    10. Warm weather: the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Singapore, Spain, Australia, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, the USA, Israel, France, Italy, Argentina, Chile, Japan, South Korea (Jeju Island) and Croatia

    11. Low or non-existant threat of serious natural disasters: Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore, Estonia, Slovenia, Finland, Spain, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and South Korea

    So (rather shockingly), on paper (according to this), the country I should move to and the only one to fulfill the criteria in all 11 categories is the United Arab Emirates, followed by Poland (10/11) South Korea (10/11), Singapore (10/11), the Czech Republic (8/11), Hungary (7/11), Japan (7/11) and funnily enough Croatia fulfils 6 out of the 11 criteria (but of course none of the six have anything to do with the politicians or proper governance, rather they are all down to nature and geography)!

  10. Croatian Capitalist says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/06/17/colombia-conservative-defeats-far-leftist-presidential-election/

    A pro-market candidate winning is always good news in itself, but the fact that the socialist candidate won 42% of the vote even though the socialist basket-case Venezuela is right next door and Colombia is full of Venezuelan refugees fleeing socialism, is rather worrying.

  11. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Have you been to this city: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aguascalientes_City

    It looks interesting on paper.

    • fafc says:

      Yes. It is one of many very nice, clean, non-touristy modern cities located in the interior of Mexico. Even the touristy ones are very nice. The secret to Mexico, and I suppose all countries, is to avoid the bad places. In Mexico it is even more important since those bad places are so horrendous. But what that leaves, if you look honestly at the national statistics, is that the ‘non-bad’ places are really really nice. Guanajuato and Zacatecas are both lovely old colonial ‘silver cities’ built in the 15th and 16th centuries from the wealth of silver mines that are still producing to this day. San Miguel de Allende is another gem. Farther south you have Puebla (my favorite at least for now), and many more. Outside the High Sierra country (the plateau between the major mountain ranges in the East and West) there are also many lovely cities that combine modern comforts and safety with lovely colonial charm: Xalapa, Campeche, Merida, Los Mochis (I have heard various things about this place — it is a lovely place but may be a bit too close to the USA…), etc.

      I am thinking very seriously about spending some time in Mexico this winter. And if I like it liquidating everything I have in Georgia and moving on. Georgia is taking a very bad path. I am hoping it returns to the way it was 2 years ago, but I see no evidence of that happening.

      As such I am regretting rejecting Mexico which would have been wonderful and much more practical for me. Western Europeans are zombies; they are dead but they just don’t know it yet. Central and Eastern Europe show some promise but are under constant attack to be more politically correct, which means follow the cultural suicide that is taking place in the West. Mexico on the other hand has many problems, but those are not among them.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Nice, thank you, even though I am for now sticking to my plan to either stay here or move to one of the V4 countries, I am still looking at possible back-up options in the rest of the World (and Aquascalientes is the best city I have found in Latin America so far), because the EU is intent on destroying the whole continent by moving half of Africa and the Middle East to Europe, they also want to make the tax system in the entire EU like the one France has (meaning very high taxes and insane bureaucracy, I believe one American CEO even called France a communist country a few years ago, after deciding not to invest there), etc., if the V4 countries don’t stand up to Bruxelles, I really don’t see the point of staying in Europe, Russia and the countries in it’s sphere of influence will never be normal countries, Georgia as you write doesn’t seem nearly as good of a prospect as it did just a few years ago (plus I really dislike it’s neighbourhood), Switzerland will share the fate of the EU countries, Erdogan’s Turkey is not a place I want to live in (I mean thousands of their own millionaires flee the country each year, that is a clear signal that something is seriously wrong there, and that is without even going into the issues not related to the economy), so if the V4 falls, I really think that there won’t be a place left in Europe for a sane person to live in, and I have absolutely no intention of living in an even more degenerate version of the Soviet Union (as horrible as the original Soviets were, at least unlike the EUSSR they understood basic biology and didn’t try to bring half of the third World into the Soviet Union (as far as I know, even the Central Asians (so Soviet citizens) had a very hard time getting permission to settle in Moscow and other major Soviet cities outside of Central Asia), etc.).

        Even though there are many things I don’t like about Latin America, there is one thing I do like about it, namely that unlike in the USA, Canada and Western Europe, where ethnic Europeans are legally and openly discriminated against, in countries like Mexico or Peru you are in the top 10 to 20 percent of society just by being European (unless you are a junkie or something like that of course, but junkies and their like are the bottom of every society), so it is probably the region of the World where it is the easiest for an industrious European immigrant to reach the top of society.

        Yes, the Western Europeans are mostly zombies, only the Italians and Austrians are showing some signs of life, but I think that even those are cases of “too little, too late”. True, that is another thing to like about Latin America, political correctness (especially Western-style political correctness) just doesn’t exist in the majority of countries there.

        • fafc says:

          I have to agree with you. Western Europe is gone. Italy and Austria are trying, but I think it is too little too late. I hope I am wrong. On this trip so far I have visited Vienna, Prague, and now I am in Krakow. Vienna is very nice, but the young (even though they are very few) are totally brainwashed by Leftist thinking. My comments here: https://medium.com/@alexanderjhay/a-discouraging-afternoon-in-old-town-vienna-1652c1501364

          Prague and Krakow are both nice cities, Prague being the cleaner and more vibrant, Krakow being the more comfortable and easy going. What both cities have that I did not see in Vienna was children. There are children everywhere, and lots of pregnant women. The Poles and the Czechs seem to be creating the future generation. I don’t have the numbers of their birth rate handy, but it would seem that they are doing a better job than the Austrians, and certainly better than the rest of Europe. But again, I worry about the young. All these areas are suffering from the same unending propaganda that encourages the suicidal attitudes that you see in the West, and they have no other model to look at for guidance.

          We will see.

          As for Georgia, my problem with them is that they have taken a 180 degree change in attitudes, and turned dramatically anti-foreign while at the same time they are becoming more belligerent towards Russia. Really crazy. I am convinced that the Europeans and NATO are just playing with them, and their primary trade partner is still Russia. But as with the rest of Europe, the young in Georgia are being fed a constant stream of irrational garbage that doesn’t make the smallest bit of sense. They are unable to carry on any discussion because they know they are making no sense. But they “Have no Choice!” I hear that all the time in Georgia. I ask them what that means? They can’t answer. It is a slogan that they are using more and more and covers for their stupidity I guess. More troubling is their anti-business attitudes. I love my farm, but last year they made it impossible for foreigners to own any farm land in Georgia, and this includes inheritance and corporate ownership even where a foreigner has a minority percentage of the company. I had attracted a number of large investors willing to invest millions in Georgian agriculture, but now that is dead. I had hoped that there would be some resolution to this problem, but after more than a year there has been no solutions offered by the government. And the people are becoming ever more stupidly nationalistic. I say stupidly because I like nationalism to the degree that it encourages pride and positive public spirit, but not when it crosses the line to fascism. An example is that they had a policy to more or less give Georgian citizenship to any US or European citizen who was living in Georgia if they asked nicely. Now they are denying citizenship to people who are investing, active in the community, etc. The entire program is so unpopular in Georgia now that I am afraid they will retroactively invalidate my citizenship based upon some bogus claim from my application. Or no reason whatsoever. Then I would lose my land. That would never happen in Mexico. Citizenship and land is sacred in Mexico, even for pinche Gringos! Finally, I have started noticing more people openly displaying Nazi symbols. While claiming they are pro-European and anti-Russian. It just makes no sense.

  12. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Vienna is a leftist city and has been such for a very long time (they have been in power there continuously longer than in North Korea!), so no surprise there, I have never liked the Austrians (and I have been to Austria many times, so I am writing/talking from experience, not a media created perception or for historical reasons) and the major Austrian cities are full of socialist primitives from the Balkans (you know, the very people I want to move away from), so even if Austria wasn’t the kind of place that you describe, I still wouldn’t want to move there.

    Yes, the birth rates are rising in all of the V4 countries (and that is even without counting the children of the people temporarily working in Western Europe, who will eventually return along with their children), I even posted the exact TFR of each country and compared it to the TFR a decade or so ago in one of my replies when we were discussing Hungary, I think.

    They are targeted by the same propaganda, but according to the polls I have seen (and the crying of Western leftists “reporting” on those polls) the young in those countries are more right-wing than their parents, so out of all of the potential worries I have about those countries, their youth turning into “Swedes” is not one of them.

    On the topic of cleanlinesses. Prague is definitely better than any major city in Poland, the air quality in the Polish cities is among the worst in Europe, which is a legacy of the Soviet occupation, since the extremely polluting power plants (powered by coal) and primitive heating systems built back then are still largely in use today, and this is my only really major concern about Poland, but a big enough one to probably end up choosing the Czech Republic over it.

    Just what you wrote about banning foreigners from owning farmland is enough for me to remove Georgia from my list of potential tourist destinations, never mind moving there, if I were you, I would sell everything I own in Georgia while I still can and move somewhere where private property is sacred.

  13. Croatian Capitalist says:

    One Latin American country that is starting to import Western politically correct idiocy is Chile: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-21/daniela-vega-of-a-fantastic-woman-embodies-chile-culture-shift

    Chile is yet another country that is off my list of potential tourist destinations, never mind moving there.

  14. Croatian Capitalist says:

    If you end up moving to Mexico, on what basis do you plan to get permanent residency? Investment (I think the needed amount is around 170000 USD)? The retirement/independent income scheme (I think the needed amount is an income of 2500 USD per month)? Something else? I know that Westerners are allowed to spend 6 months a year in Mexico on a tourist visa (which we automatically get when we land in Mexico), but you can’t work or start a business on a tourist visa.

    • fafc says:

      As a Georgian citizen I can claim that as my residence, and even if they take my citizenship away, I can get some other type of visa. Then I can just live in Mexico and enjoy. But I have a 15 hectare farm in Mexico that may contribute to a visa. Don’t know. Don’t too much care. Mexico is easy to deal with.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        Do you have any other ideas apart from Mexico if you end up deciding to leave Georgia?

        • fafc says:

          I am still thinking Hungary, Czechia, or Poland. Also, I would like to visit Portugal.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            Portugal is probably a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there, this is what is says in the preamble of their constitution:

            “The Constituent Assembly affirms the decision of the Portuguese people to defend the national independence, to guarantee the fundamental rights of citizens, to establish the basic principles of democracy, to ensure the rule of democratic law and make way for a socialist society, in respect the will of the Portuguese people, with a view to building a freer, more just and more fraternal country.”

            “Make way for a socialist society”, even the Croatian constitution doesn’t have such a sick phrase within it.

          • fafc says:

            I have rather lost interest in nations and ideals. If a place has a nice place for me to live, pleasant people, and good wine, that will go a long way.

  15. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Anyway, to get back to Mexico: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/06/25/report-mexico-racist-criteria-to-expel-massive-number-of-central-americans-seeking-refuge/

    The Mexicans seem to have a good migration policy, they send the bottom of their society to the USA (who then instead of causing trouble in Mexico send remittances to it), generally don’t let those to their south in, and if they somehow manage to enter Mexico, they send them to the USA too, and the legal immigration system seems to be focused on bringing wealthy and/or entrepreneurial Westerners and Asians into the country.

    • fafc says:

      Indeed. And the food is great! There are lots of interesting opportunities if that is what you are looking for, and a nice lifestyle if you have a source of income outside of Mexico.

      • Croatian Capitalist says:

        I think that I will put Mexico where I used to put Chile (before they decided that following the doctrine of the democrat party in USA was a good idea)/the Southern Cone, namely as the place to go if the entirety of he West and Asia decide to self-destruct, because while the majority of Mexico outside of Aguascalientes and the Yucatan is in shambles, I just couldn’t justify to myself going there over the Czech Republic, the only thing Mexico has in it’s favor is that it is warmer, everything else (the judiciary, gun and self-defense laws, lower crime and corruption rates, the demographics, the standard of living, etc.) is in favor of the Czech Republic, and Mexico wouldn’t fare much better over the other countries in consideration either.

        • fafc says:

          I think you may be right, but remember, statistics are misleading in Mexico. If you do your homework and choose a quiet and safe place to live you will be safer than if you went to Switzerland. Most parts of Mexico are amazing, marred by incredibly bad places that skew the statistics. But Czechia is still pretty awesome, and you are a reasonable bus or train ride away from family and friends. That may or may not mean a lot. For me it is becoming a big deal. I am tired of these 30 hour long trips. Hell, even coming from Budapest to Tbilisi was a 24 hour long ordeal because of the flight times, and the long lay overs. That just corrodes you down.

          • Croatian Capitalist says:

            Maybe I would be safer (even though I doubt it), but I wouldn’t feel safer, I would constantly think about the possibility of the cartels or some other problematic group moving in, not to mention the fact that the Mexican police and judiciary are famous for corruption, so unless someone like Pinochet comes along and cleans Mexico up, I really can’t imagine it becoming my preferred emigration destination.

            Yes, Prague is just 7 hours or so by car from where I live, and about a hour and a half by plane, and it is not just about family and friends, I also know (or I know somebody who knows them) experts in various fields, for example I know a world class heart surgeon here, a world class dentist, a world class ENT doctor, etc., I know who I can trust when buying food here, and so on and so forth, and if I move to Prague, all of those people are just an hour and a half away, but if I moved to Mexico, all of those people would be too far away to make a difference in an urgent situation, and I know absolutely no one who I can trust in Mexico in any field.

            Yes, even back when I still considered Australia and New Zealand options, I considered it unlikely that I would actually make the move there, because of how far away they are from any interesting place, imagine living in lets say Melbourne and wanting to visit Prague for example, you would have to spend at least 3 days just in the planes and airports! And if you moved to New Zealand the situation would be even worse.

  16. fafc says:

    Yes, but some good news for Columbia??? I have actually heard nothing but good things about Columbia lately.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/06/buried_news_colombias_shantytowns_rejected_socialism_bigtime_to_avoid_another_venezuela.html

    • Croatian Capitalist says:

      Columbia has definitely made significant progress economically and in reducing crime since Uribe became president in 2002, but it still has a very long way to go, for example even though the murder rate has been more than halved since 2002, it is still higher than Mexico’s, and taking a stroll through Columbia’s major cities is about as good as an idea as taking a stroll through Detroit or Baltimore…

      In regards to the election, even though it is always good to see a pro-market candidate win, the fact that even with Venezuela being right next door and Colombia being full of refugees fleeing socialism, a socialist terrorist still won 42% of the vote means that 42% of Columbian voters are stupid beyond all measure, and I don’t want to live in such a country.

      • fafc says:

        Finding a country where there is not a bottom 40% of profound stupidity is impossible. All you can hope is that they never get into control, as in Venezuela, the UK, Sweden, etc.

        • Croatian Capitalist says:

          Sorry, but I don’t agree with what you wrote in your first sentence, in Singapore open socialists get less than 20% of the vote, in Japan in the last election they got under 10% of the vote, in South Korea there is only one mainstream party which advocates anything close to socialism, and do you know how many seats in the National Assembly that party has? 6 seats in the 300 seat National Assembly, in the Czech Republic the only party that would turn the Czech Republic into Venezuela got less than 8% of the vote, and all of the at least somewhat leftist parties put together got less than 30% of the votes, in Poland the leftists couldn’t even get 8% of the votes needed to enter parliament (8% for coalitions, 5% for individual parties), etc., so there are plenty of countries where the percentage of profoundly stupid people is way less than 42%.

  17. Croatian Capitalist says:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-trump-options/trump-says-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-venezuela-idUSKCN1PH2KC

    It looks increasingly likely that the Maduro regime will fall, but even if it did, I still wouldn’t be optimistic about Venezuela’s future, because almost the entire opposition is made up of parties that are socialist to varying degrees.

    • fafc says:

      Time will tell. If the new regime is less authoritarian than this one, new elections may change things. But I doubt it also. Latin Americans have proven to be very fond of socialism and centralized government authority.

  18. Croatian Capitalist says:

    Yes, that is why the democrats are so fond of Latin American immigration, they know once enough mestizo socialists move from Latin America to Texas and Florida and gain voting rights, that they will have those states in the bag (like what happened to the once staunchly Republican California), and thus the presidential elections will become only a formality for the democrats, they will be able to win every presidential election with no problems.

    As for Venezuela, even assuming that they managed to get a decent government in, Chavez and Maduro have destroyed Venezuela to such an extent that it would take decades of proper governance for Venezuela to even start resembling a normal country, plus you can be sure that that the millions of idiots who have supported Chavez and Maduro for all this time are going to try to sabotage any attempts at progress, so either way I think that for the purposes of this website Venezuela is useless.

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